< General_Vagueness> I'm familiar with these people and enjoy what they say but I don't really hang out with them
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< Paddy> that's what my opening paragraph in the writeup was about
< General_Vagueness> I don't care about or totally acknowledge the stigma
< Paddy> then it will seek to define you GV
< General_Vagueness> thanks for telling me, now I don't have to read it